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I think I've given up on razz, at least for a while. I ran well when I started playing but I don't think I'm really any good. I make undisciplned calls on early streets when the pot is small and I know I have the worst hand. I open too loose and don't fold when I get reraised. All of this means that I end up in a lot of hands where I'm drawing dead or slim and a lot of hands where I have the best hand but am only a 60/40 or so favorite. This is not good.
I also don't fully understand some principles about the game. I played this one hand where we were four handed on fourth street. I had four to a 98, David Grey had four to a 7, and two guys who started with three low cards had caught paint. I jammed the pot because I thought the presence of the two guys who caught bad made me less than a 3-1 dog. After David made a 7 on fifth street and I paid him with a 9, he made a comment in the chat about how bad the play in the game was. I made some retort and he said, "I probably should't tell you this, but you had the worst hand of the four of us." I ran the numbers and he was right. Boy did I feel like an idiot. So no more razz for now.
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So I've been playing triple draw again. What a rollercoaster this game is. I've written about it before, but my lord. One hour you're the king of the world and you win every hand and the next thing you know you can only make pairs and you've lost multiple buy-ins in the blink of an eye. This game will drive me insane.
I think I've given up on razz, at least for a while. I ran well when I started playing but I don't think I'm really any good. I make undisciplned calls on early streets when the pot is small and I know I have the worst hand. I open too loose and don't fold when I get reraised. All of this means that I end up in a lot of hands where I'm drawing dead or slim and a lot of hands where I have the best hand but am only a 60/40 or so favorite. This is not good.
I also don't fully understand some principles about the game. I played this one hand where we were four handed on fourth street. I had four to a 98, David Grey had four to a 7, and two guys who started with three low cards had caught paint. I jammed the pot because I thought the presence of the two guys who caught bad made me less than a 3-1 dog. After David made a 7 on fifth street and I paid him with a 9, he made a comment in the chat about how bad the play in the game was. I made some retort and he said, "I probably should't tell you this, but you had the worst hand of the four of us." I ran the numbers and he was right. Boy did I feel like an idiot. So no more razz for now.
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So I've been playing triple draw again. What a rollercoaster this game is. I've written about it before, but my lord. One hour you're the king of the world and you win every hand and the next thing you know you can only make pairs and you've lost multiple buy-ins in the blink of an eye. This game will drive me insane.
posted by Chris Fargis at 2:49 AM
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If I live a thousand years, I'll never understand why someone would criticize an opponent after winning a hand. It's bizarre to me that even many of the game's best players can't seem to extend game theory and impulse control to a single decision other than fold call raise. Anyway, I have no idea how I found your blog but it's awesome. More updates pls tks!
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David Grey proves once again why it makes no sense to criticize or inform people at the table. Well, you won't have to be dealing with that "bad play" anymore, David. Say so long to Dead Money Fargis!
Do you have an idea of your standard deviation for triple draw?
My idea for the standard deviation of triple draw is that it is large. This is, at the same time, both a joke and all I really know. I never lost of won as much or in streaks playing hold em the way I do playing this shit. I don't have any tracking software for it. I could analyze my results data but I am lazy.
Happy holidays to you as well.
Played some TD with some other bloggers last night and thank goodness for your posts or I would have been clueless on how to play. Well, a little less clueless for me.
Hooray! Can we expect more TD hands soon? :)
Paul
Chris,
I don't want to pile on here, but what starting hand did you have that had you drawing to a 98? Good razz players play more hands on early streets, but they play more with cleaners redraws. This is why in a multiway pot, a 923 is much better than a 874.
Mark,
I started with an 8 and two wheel cards (I forget which) and caught a 9 on fourth.
If you didn't typo, this is ridiculous.
"I probably should't tell you this, but you had the worst hand of the four of us."
I assume you made a mistake in relaying a hand because if you think a four to a seven is a dog against four to 98 and a three bricked off low draws, you might want to rethink that.
Anonymous, you are an idiot.
Maybe I need to find David Grey's blog (if he has one) for this, but just quickly running some stuff in twodimes, it seems that except for spots where you're against 3wheels+paint for both opponents, you don't have the worst hand.
Certainly against a typical starting hand range of two people who bricked, you'll be in 2nd place a decent percentage of the time.
Of course, all that said, you're still never better than about 17-18% there so capping was still -EV. Just funny that it seems David had a bit of the results oriented thinking there, and was silly to point it out anyway.
George, when I put the hand in twodimes after it happened, I had the worst equity. In any case, as you said, I always have less equity than I need to jam.
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