Two Hands
I hope you all had happy holidays. Here are two crazy hands I played on the 'ol Internet this week. I had a nice win today so hopefully my big losing streak is over (knock on wood).
Hand #9654283-7912 at Olevetta ($80/$160 Triple Draw 2-7)
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Started at 26/Nov/05 20:48:35
SaveMySkin is at seat 2 with $12900.50.
Opponent is at seat 3 with $3109.50.
Birdiepot is at seat 4 with $6919.
The button is at seat 3.
Birdiepot posts the small blind of $40.
SaveMySkin posts the big blind of $80.
SaveMySkin: As Th 7s Kd 2d
Opponent: -- -- -- -- --
Birdiepot: -- -- -- -- --
First Round:
Opponent raises to $160. Birdiepot folds.
SaveMySkin calls.
SaveMySkin takes 3 cards. Opponent takes 2 cards.
SaveMySkin: 7s 2d Jd 5h Qc
Opponent : -- -- -- -- --
Second Round:
SaveMySkin checks. Opponent checks.
SaveMySkin takes 2 cards. Opponent takes 2 cards.
SaveMySkin: 7s 2d 5h 2s 5c
Opponent : -- -- -- -- --
Third Round:
SaveMySkin bets $160. Opponent raises to $320.
SaveMySkin calls.
SaveMySkin stands pat. Opponent stands pat.
SaveMySkin: 7s 2d 5h 2s 5c
Opponent : -- -- -- -- --
Final Round:
SaveMySkin checks. Opponent folds.
Hand #9654283-7912 Summary:
$1 is raked from a pot of $1000.
SaveMySkin wins $999.
There are a number of strange things about this hand. I recognize that my calling and standing pat with two pair looks very strange. Trust me when I say I have my reasons. I'll spell it out if people are curious. What do we think happened here to this guy on the end? First of all, he didn't time out or misclick. It tells you when someone times out on UB, so that wasn't it, and you have to confirm that you want to fold TWICE when it's free for you to check. I guess he either had a very rough pat hand and decided he just couldn't win or he had a flush or straight that he didn't see when he chose to stand pat. As Maroon pointed out when we were talking about this hand tonight, wouldn't you bluff the river if you suddenly discovered that your wheel was all hearts? I know I would.
PokerStars Game #3159813049: Omaha Hi/Lo Limit ($30/$60) - 2005/11/25 - 23:48:35 (ET)
Table 'Hecuba V' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: ROXY24 ($960 in chips)
Seat 2: mylo ($1152 in chips)
Seat 3: bostoner ($1284 in chips)
Seat 4: omaha kid ($1107 in chips)
Seat 5: berdyfish ($1078.50 in chips)
Seat 6: SaveMySkin ($1604 in chips)
Seat 8: LPGAfan ($570 in chips)
Seat 9: incha ($1022 in chips)
Seat 10: Kingfish27 ($4204.50 in chips)
omaha kid: posts small blind $15
berdyfish: posts big blind $30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SaveMySkin [Th Kd 6s As]
SaveMySkin: calls $30
LPGAfan: folds
incha: folds
Kingfish27: folds
ROXY24: folds
mylo: raises $30 to $60
bostoner: calls $60
omaha kid: folds
berdyfish: calls $30
SaveMySkin: calls $30
*** FLOP *** [5c Td 3c]
berdyfish: checks
SaveMySkin: checks
mylo: checks
bostoner: checks
*** TURN *** [5c Td 3c] [7d]
berdyfish: checks
SaveMySkin: bets $60
mylo: calls $60
bostoner: calls $60
berdyfish: calls $60
*** RIVER *** [5c Td 3c 7d] [4h]
berdyfish: checks
SaveMySkin: checks
mylo: checks
bostoner: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
berdyfish: shows [9d 8d 7s Qs] (HI: a pair of Sevens; LO: 8,7,5,4,3)
SaveMySkin: shows [Th Kd 6s As] (HI: a pair of Tens; LO: 6,5,4,3,A)
mylo: mucks hand
bostoner: mucks hand
SaveMySkin collected $246 from pot
SaveMySkin collected $246 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $495 | Rake $3
Board [5c Td 3c 7d 4h]
Seat 1: ROXY24 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: mylo mucked [3s Jd Ad 8h]
Seat 3: bostoner (button) mucked [Qc 7h 9h Ac]
Seat 4: omaha kid (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: berdyfish (big blind) showed [9d 8d 7s Qs] and lost with HI: a pair of Sevens; LO:
8,7,5,4,3
Seat 6: SaveMySkin showed [Th Kd 6s As] and won ($492) with HI: a pair of Tens; LO: 6,5,4,3,A
Seat 8: LPGAfan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: incha folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: Kingfish27 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
I guess this hand isn't THAT crazy. It's funny that I scooped because I pretty much have to fold if there's a bet on the river. On the turn, I can't lose the low. Who would have thunk?
Probably a light tournament schedule for me tomorrow since the Giants play an important game late in the afternoon.
Hand #9654283-7912 at Olevetta ($80/$160 Triple Draw 2-7)
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Started at 26/Nov/05 20:48:35
SaveMySkin is at seat 2 with $12900.50.
Opponent is at seat 3 with $3109.50.
Birdiepot is at seat 4 with $6919.
The button is at seat 3.
Birdiepot posts the small blind of $40.
SaveMySkin posts the big blind of $80.
SaveMySkin: As Th 7s Kd 2d
Opponent: -- -- -- -- --
Birdiepot: -- -- -- -- --
First Round:
Opponent raises to $160. Birdiepot folds.
SaveMySkin calls.
SaveMySkin takes 3 cards. Opponent takes 2 cards.
SaveMySkin: 7s 2d Jd 5h Qc
Opponent : -- -- -- -- --
Second Round:
SaveMySkin checks. Opponent checks.
SaveMySkin takes 2 cards. Opponent takes 2 cards.
SaveMySkin: 7s 2d 5h 2s 5c
Opponent : -- -- -- -- --
Third Round:
SaveMySkin bets $160. Opponent raises to $320.
SaveMySkin calls.
SaveMySkin stands pat. Opponent stands pat.
SaveMySkin: 7s 2d 5h 2s 5c
Opponent : -- -- -- -- --
Final Round:
SaveMySkin checks. Opponent folds.
Hand #9654283-7912 Summary:
$1 is raked from a pot of $1000.
SaveMySkin wins $999.
There are a number of strange things about this hand. I recognize that my calling and standing pat with two pair looks very strange. Trust me when I say I have my reasons. I'll spell it out if people are curious. What do we think happened here to this guy on the end? First of all, he didn't time out or misclick. It tells you when someone times out on UB, so that wasn't it, and you have to confirm that you want to fold TWICE when it's free for you to check. I guess he either had a very rough pat hand and decided he just couldn't win or he had a flush or straight that he didn't see when he chose to stand pat. As Maroon pointed out when we were talking about this hand tonight, wouldn't you bluff the river if you suddenly discovered that your wheel was all hearts? I know I would.
PokerStars Game #3159813049: Omaha Hi/Lo Limit ($30/$60) - 2005/11/25 - 23:48:35 (ET)
Table 'Hecuba V' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: ROXY24 ($960 in chips)
Seat 2: mylo ($1152 in chips)
Seat 3: bostoner ($1284 in chips)
Seat 4: omaha kid ($1107 in chips)
Seat 5: berdyfish ($1078.50 in chips)
Seat 6: SaveMySkin ($1604 in chips)
Seat 8: LPGAfan ($570 in chips)
Seat 9: incha ($1022 in chips)
Seat 10: Kingfish27 ($4204.50 in chips)
omaha kid: posts small blind $15
berdyfish: posts big blind $30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SaveMySkin [Th Kd 6s As]
SaveMySkin: calls $30
LPGAfan: folds
incha: folds
Kingfish27: folds
ROXY24: folds
mylo: raises $30 to $60
bostoner: calls $60
omaha kid: folds
berdyfish: calls $30
SaveMySkin: calls $30
*** FLOP *** [5c Td 3c]
berdyfish: checks
SaveMySkin: checks
mylo: checks
bostoner: checks
*** TURN *** [5c Td 3c] [7d]
berdyfish: checks
SaveMySkin: bets $60
mylo: calls $60
bostoner: calls $60
berdyfish: calls $60
*** RIVER *** [5c Td 3c 7d] [4h]
berdyfish: checks
SaveMySkin: checks
mylo: checks
bostoner: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
berdyfish: shows [9d 8d 7s Qs] (HI: a pair of Sevens; LO: 8,7,5,4,3)
SaveMySkin: shows [Th Kd 6s As] (HI: a pair of Tens; LO: 6,5,4,3,A)
mylo: mucks hand
bostoner: mucks hand
SaveMySkin collected $246 from pot
SaveMySkin collected $246 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $495 | Rake $3
Board [5c Td 3c 7d 4h]
Seat 1: ROXY24 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: mylo mucked [3s Jd Ad 8h]
Seat 3: bostoner (button) mucked [Qc 7h 9h Ac]
Seat 4: omaha kid (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: berdyfish (big blind) showed [9d 8d 7s Qs] and lost with HI: a pair of Sevens; LO:
8,7,5,4,3
Seat 6: SaveMySkin showed [Th Kd 6s As] and won ($492) with HI: a pair of Tens; LO: 6,5,4,3,A
Seat 8: LPGAfan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: incha folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: Kingfish27 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
I guess this hand isn't THAT crazy. It's funny that I scooped because I pretty much have to fold if there's a bet on the river. On the turn, I can't lose the low. Who would have thunk?
Probably a light tournament schedule for me tomorrow since the Giants play an important game late in the afternoon.
posted by Chris Fargis at 11:57 PM
8 Comments:
limping UTG in o8 with that is a good idea?
you can't fold to a river bet, any a2 is raising the turn no? mylo isn't checking the flop with a2
i am curious about the tdl hand, i assume you patted the end to bluff, when he patted you decided to save 160 and check fold? if thats the case why not 3 bet the turn (or whatever thats called)
its kind of funny that software even gives him a fold option in that spot....god bless america
im sorry but you need to go to OMaha school. limping with with 3 to a broadway, unsuited with a bad draw to low is really bad especially in a game with any aggression in in. you basically need to hit QJ to have any chance of winning this hand. even 2 pair will often lose.
for the triple draw hand. you need to bet the river.
Wow! is that a murderers row of an omaha/8 game. I see maybe one real weak opponent for you in that game.
as other have pointed out, that is a very bad hand to limp in early position in o8.
on the river you can't fold for a bet. anyone with A2 would have raised the turn. you have second nut low and could be against high hands.
Andrew, I see at least 2 weak spots and another mediocre player in the O-8 game.
Small point, but I think that unless you check off Confirm Fold in the options menu at UB, then the software will permit inadvertent folds without confirming.
gossip gossip gossip,
I know that every player all but two are solid winning pros. I don't know much about bostoner or LPGAfan, but neither of them seem dreadful.
About the O8 hand:
- A suited ace with two broadway cards is playable, IMHO. Mark Tenner reccommends playing this hand in his O8 book, which I like a lot. Obviously people have different ideas of playable starting hands. Folding this UTG is okay.
- A few people said that A2 would obviously raise the turn. I don't think this is so obvious if you have no high draw other than your wheel draw and no backup for low. In addition you need to worry about another A2. In fact I think raising with a naked A2 here is a mistake that a lot of players make.
- About the lineup, I've just recently started playing these games, so I don't know the players too well. Some of those guys are strong players, for sure.
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